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BIDEN IS CORRECT AND USA NEEDS SYRIA TO FIGHT ISIS(L) AS TURKEY AND SAUDI + BIG OIL MONARCHS ARE AGAINST USA AND ARE FOR ISIS(L) = FALL OF KOBANI = FAILURE OF USA BOMBING

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BIDEN IS CORRECT AND USA NEEDS SYRIA TO FIGHT ISIS(L) AS TURKEY AND SAUDI + BIG OIL MONARCHS ARE AGAINST USA AND ARE FOR ISIS(L) = FALL OF KOBANI = FAILURE OF USA BOMBING

Patrick Cockburn, Irish journalist and Middle East correspondent since 1979 for the Financial Times and, now The Independent. Author of four books – latest book is The Jihadis Return: ISIS and the New Sunni Uprising. Interview by ANTON WORONCZUK, PRODUCER on to The Real News Network.

Click to see Video and text of Interview regarding ISIS(L) with Patrick Cockburn on The Real News Network

WORONCZUK: VP Biden’s factual comments made at Harvard University, quote, “our allies in the region were the larger problem…various states involved in the war campaign against the Islamic State, such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates, had been responsible for funding extremist jihadi groups, among them the al-Nusra Front and al-Qaeda, and were also fueling a Sunni-Shia proxy war.”

KOBANI

Kobani, Kurdish Town

WORONCZUK: Now, Kurdish fighters may have been defeated by ISIS(L) in Kobani in the three-week-long offensive. Ankara, Turkey refused to allow fighters from the Kurdish Workers’ Party, also known as the PKK, to cross the borders to fight against ISIS(L), nor has it provided military support in Kobani’s defense.
Ironically, Turkish officials are set to meet up with USA coalition against ISIS(L).

Why do you think VP Biden was forced to a factual statement?

PATRICK COCKBURN, JOURNALIST, THE INDEPENDENT: I found Biden’s honesty refreshing and true. It is true that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates–he didn’t mention Qatar, but he could have–were the countries that fostered the growth of ISIS(L) and of AQ-Jabhat al-Nusra in Syria and it’s true that they also encouraged a Sunni-Shia civil war. And it’s also true, as Biden said, that the moderates don’t really exist — moderates are not there except in MYTH cultivated by USA to fight both ISIS and the Assad government. So everything said was wholly true. I think it’s rather depressing he retreated partially from what he said.

COCKBURN: The consequences of pretending the coalition against ISIS is NOT made up those who created ISIS, is backfiring even now. We see that with the impending fall of Kobani to ISIS(L), this Kurdish town on the Syrian border. But ISIS has also won big victories in western Iraq by taking most of the enormous Anbar province – 25% of Iraq and is approaching Baghdad. This means that USA airstrikes and bombings is failing.

WORONCZUK: Isn’t the reason Kobani fell is because Turkey didn’t offer any military support for the Kurds in their fight against ISIS(L).

COCKBURN: True, and that is sort of what Biden was saying, this alliance of countries who previously supported ISIS(L) and groups like it and grew them. ISIS is not being degraded, certainly not being destroyed or even being contained. It’s expanding in both the east and the west. Once they’ve taken Kobani, they’ve cleared the whole way between Mosul, second-biggest city in Iraq, which they took on 10 June, and Aleppo, which–they’re just on the outskirts of Aleppo, which is the biggest city in Syria. So ISIS(L), the caliphate everybody mocked, is growing in size and strength. It’s not been diminished.

WORONCZUK: It was recently reported that Iraqi Prime Minister Al-Abadi sent an envoy to Assad to assure him that he wouldn’t be a targeted during this war campaign. Do you think this can be taken seriously?

COCKBURN: What striking is just how messy and contradictory everybody’s policy is toward Syria and Assad. It’s perfectly obvious that if you effectively attack ISIS(L) yoou help Assad and the Syrian government. Kobani is just falling as we speak, and USA’s infrequent airstrikes weren’t able to prevent that. One reason why ISIS decided to take Kobani was to win an extra victory, to show that the airstrikes had not weakened them and they could still win on the battlefield. This is really quite a defeat for USA and quite a victory for ISIS(L).

WORONCZUK: Seems to be same case in the Anbar province in Iraq — totally controlled by the ISIS(L).

COCKBURN: There are a few islands of Iraqi Army or tribal control, but over the last month or so, ignored by the MSM, ISIS(L) has taken over most of Anbar including Hīt and most of Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province. They’re moving towards West Baghdad. In the past we’ve said they cannot take Baghdad because its mostly Shia, a city of 7 million people and the Iraqi Army has tens of thousands of men there plus militias. But the Iraqi Army is just as much of a wreck as it was when it lost northern Iraq in June. So things are not getting better.

WORONCZUK: Do you think it’s worth having a debate about military strategy?


COCKBURN: The Pentagon certainly has thought about this and it is obvious that Syria most be an alley on the ground, not pretend allies. Syria has shown the most success fighting ISIS(L) — the Syrian army, the Syrian Kurds, and Hezbollah — USA doesn’t have to sign treaties with these people, but they need a degree of cooperation that they can effectively act against ISIS(L) to coordinate and communicate, between ground and USA Air Force. The weakness of the USA air strategy has been exposed, that this whole policy is not working.

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WOLFOWITZ DOCTRINE = USA SUPERPOWER DOMINATION OF THE WORLD

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1991 WOLFOWITZ DOCTRINE = USA SUPERPOWER DOMINATION OF THE WORLD

Click for Source Information on Wolfowitz Doctrine

Superpower status = The WOLFOWITZ doctrine announces the U.S’s status as the world’s only remaining superpower following the collapse of the Soviet Unionat the end of the Cold War and proclaims its main objective to be retaining that status.

Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.

This was substantially re-written in the April 16 release.

Our most fundamental goal is to deter or defeat attack from whatever source… The second goal is to strengthen and extend the system of defense arrangements that binds democratic and like-minded nations together in common defense against aggression, build habits of cooperation, avoid the renationalization of security policies, and provide security at lower costs and with lower risks for all. Our preference for a collective response to preclude threats or, if necessary, to deal with them is a key feature of our regional defense strategy. The third goal is to preclude any hostile power from dominating a region critical to our interests, and also thereby to strengthen the barriers against the re-emergence of a global threat to the interests of the U.S. and our allies.

U.S. primacy
The doctrine establishes the U.S’s leadership role within the new world order.

The U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. In non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role.

This was substantially re-written in the April 16 release.

One of the primary tasks we face today in shaping the future is carrying long standing alliances into the new era, and turning old enmities into new cooperative relationships. If we and other leading democracies continue to build a democratic security community, a much safer world is likely to emerge. If we act separately, many other problems could result.

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TORTURE AND MURDER = USA CIA PROGRAM OPERATION PHOENIX VIETNAM (1965-1973) CONTINUES UNDER ISIS(L) TO TODAY

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TORTURE AND MURDER = USA CIA PROGRAM OPERATION PHOENIX VIETNAM (1965-1973) CONTINUES UNDER ISIS(L) TO TODAY

7 Year Program (1965-1972) “Operation Phoenix” = Operation Phoenix = Phoenix Program = a program designed, coordinated, and executed by USA CIA + Special Forces during the Vietnam War to identify and “neutralize” (via infiltration, capture, terrorism, torture, and assassination) “a set of programs that sought to attack and destroy the political infrastructure” and military infrastructure of South Vietnam = Similar programs were used before and after (F-6) and others are using ISIS(L) today.

Click for Source Article details on Phoenix Program

2 Major components of Phoenix Program = Units (PRU) to kill or capture suspects + interrogation (torture) centers attempted to gain intelligence = Any information extracted at the centers was then given to military commanders to direct PRU UNITS to do more kill and capture and assassination missions.

By 1972, Phoenix operatives had “neutralized” 81,740 suspected Vietnamese of whom between 26,000 and 41,000 were killed.

CIA developed the interrogation centers and PRUs in Saigon by Station chief Peter DeSilva was a proponent of a military strategy known as “counter terror” which held that terrorism was a legitimate tool to use in unconventional warfare, and that it should be applied strategically to “enemy civilians” in order to reduce civilian support for the Enemy.

The PRUs were designed to terrorize the Vietnamese in 1964 — Originally called “Counter Terror” teams = Then renamed to PRUs (“Provincial Reconnaissance Units”) after CIA officials “became wary of the adverse publicity surrounding the use of the word ‘terror'”

Torture Methods used at the interrogation centers included Rape, gang rape, rape using eels, snakes, or hard objects, and rape followed by murder; electric shock (‘the Bell Telephone Hour’) rendered by attaching wires to the genitals or other sensitive parts of the body like tongue.

Military intelligence officer K. Milton Osborne witnessed torture: Inserting a 6-inch rod into the ear canal and tapping through the brain until dead + Starvation to death (in a cage) of a woman suspected of political education in one of the local villages + Both women’s vaginas and men’s testicles shocked into submission

The ‘water treatment’ + The ‘airplane’ — prisoner’s arms were tied behind the back and a rope looped over a hook on the ceiling was pulled to suspend the person in midair, after which he or she was beaten with rubber hoses and whips + Police dogs mauled victims.

Targeted killings and assassinations on Innocent civilians. Lieutenant Vincent Okamoto, an intelligence-liaison officer for the Phoenix Program for two months in 1968 and a recipient of the Distinguished Service Cross said the following — “The normal procedure would be to go into a village and just grab someone and say, ‘Where’s so-and-so?’ Half the time the people were so afraid they would not say anything. Then a Phoenix team would take the informant, put a sandbag over his head, poke out two holes so he could see, put commo wire around his neck like a long leash, and walk him through the village and say, ‘When we go by so and so’s house scratch your head.’ Then that night Phoenix would come back, knock on the door, and say, ‘April Fool, motherfucker.’ Whoever answered the door would get wasted. As far as they were concerned whoever answered was a Communist, including family members. Sometimes they’d come back to camp with ears to prove that they killed people.”